Episodes
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Episode 5 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: The Kiesha'ra Vol 5: Wyvernhail
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Backlist: And now, the finale! We discuss the FINAL BOOK in the Kiesha'ra series, WYVERNHAIL (published September 2007), by who else? Amelia Atwater-Rhodes! Just SO MANY FEELINGS about the series and Hai and this Extremely Necessary final book.
Chill: Cyna attempted to drink a Tears of the Prophet (Absolut Mandarin, pomegranate juice) and ended up with a Sad Prophet instead (triple sec, vodka, pomegranate juice, pineapple juice). Ollie is knocking back a shm'ecl'la'hai (absinthe + Ginger Ale Bold). PICS: Cyna - Ollie.
As mentioned: The PG-13 cover
Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Next time: Author Intro for season 7! PREPEARE THINESELVES.
Stay safe y'all and get vaccinated!
(1h 50m. Content Warning: Profanity, alcohol consumption, sexually explicit and generally extremely filthy language, discussion of rape and sexual assault, racism, internalized racism, self-hate, and white supremacy.)
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Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Episode 4 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: The Kiesha'ra Vol 4: Wolfcry
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Tuesday Mar 30, 2021
Backlist: Hope you all like them beefy, because this one is a long'un. We are chatting about Amelia Atwater-Rhodes' WOLFCRY (published September 2006), a book that has become the very definition of "mixed feelings". Join us as we spend two and a half hours sorting them out, won't you?
Chill: Cyna has Frankenstein'd up a Wolf Shapeshifter (tequila, midori, pinapple juice, and Sprite), and Ollie is drinking a Sakkri'a'she (ginger ale + absinthe, but with the absinthe ON TOP). As usual, we got some sweet pics Cyna - Ollie.
Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Next time: Season 6 Episode 5: WYVERNHAIL! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode before it goes public!
Stay safe y'all and get vaccinated!
(2h 34m. Content Warning: Profanity, alcohol consumption, sexually explicit and generally extremely filthy language, discussion of rape and sexual assault, genocide, suicide, classism, colonialism, racism and white supremacy, eugenics, ableism.)
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Monday Feb 22, 2021
Episode 3 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: The Kiesha'ra Vol 3: Falcondance
Monday Feb 22, 2021
Monday Feb 22, 2021
Backlist: It's time for volume three, baby! We're back to discuss FALCONDANCE by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes (published in September 2005), a pretty good book with one BIG asterisk. A Big. Asterisk.
We'll see how it goes.
Chill: Cyna is knocking back a White Falcon (horchata, coffee liquor, and vodka), and Ollie is back to The Good Shit (ginger ale + absinthe). As usual, we got some sweet pics Cyna - Ollie.
Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Next time: Season 6 Episode 4: WOLFCRY! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode before it goes public!
Stay safe y'all.
(2h 09m. Content Warning: Profanity, alcohol consumption, sexually explicit and generally extremely filthy language, classism, emotional and physical abuse, ritual scarification, torture, colonialism, racism and white supremacy, eugenics, ableism.)
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Friday Jan 29, 2021
Episode 2 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: The Kiesha'ra Vol 2: Snakecharm
Friday Jan 29, 2021
Friday Jan 29, 2021
Monday Dec 28, 2020
Episode 1 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: The Kiesha'ra Vol 1: Hawksong
Monday Dec 28, 2020
Monday Dec 28, 2020
Backlist: Season six is off to a turbulent start! This is take two of our discussion of HAWKSONG by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes (published in July 2003), thanks to a recording error. Will an extra read and an extra week to reflect soften our hearts towards this, the so-called (by us, we called it that) "best" of the Kiesha'ra series?
Spoiler Alert: no. No, it actually did the opposite. Sorry.
Chill: Tangentially related drinks this time - Cyna is drinking a Golden Dream (orange juice, triple sec, vanilla vodka, and cream), and Ollie is drinking an Undeath in-- er, a Hawk's Keep (Absente absinthe - not on fire - and cold ginger ale). Take a look at our pretty pics! Cyna - Ollie.
Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Next time: Season 6 Episode 2: SNAKECHARM! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode before it goes public!
Happy holidays to everyone who celebrates, and we'll see you in the new year!
(1h 19m. Content Warning: Profanity, alcohol consumption, sexually explicit language, war, violence and death, classism, traumabonding as romance, sketchy consent.)
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Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
Season Intro: The Kiesha'ra
Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
Welcome to season six, folks, in which Cyna and Ollie are revisiting on of our earliest and most formative authors - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes! This season, we're taking a deep dive into what may be Atwater-Rhodes' most popular series - The Kiesha'ra. This will almost certainly end well!
Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward. No booze was consumed in the making of this episode - regularly scheduled alcohol to resume in Episode 1: The Kiesha'ra Vol 1: Hawksong!
Thanks for sticking with us, follks, and stay safe! Come check in with us on twitter @BacklistPodcast!
Friday Sep 20, 2019
Episode 5 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: Midnight Predator
Friday Sep 20, 2019
Friday Sep 20, 2019
Welcome back, listeners! In the fifth episode of Season 2, B+C is chatting at you about MIDNIGHT PREDATOR. Published in January 2002, the fourth Den of Shadows by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes. This story includes vampires, hunters, and shapeshifters, set in a human trafficking plot-line of sorts.
Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Turquoise Daiquiri" (rum, Triple Sec, Blue Curacao, lime juice, pineapple juice) and Ollie with whatever random nips they found at their place and their brother's (Smirnoff Fluffed Marshmallow vodka with sprite; Bacardi Gold; Disaronno). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.
Next time: We announce our author for SEASON THREE, and give our Intro Episode! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!
(1h 31m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, book sniffing, timeline obsessing, and dramatic readings from the hosts; discussions of human and supernatural trafficking and slavery, terrible white dude advice from authority figures, victim shamey language, abusive relationships, physical abuse, neglect, mental abuse, manipulation, brain-washing, personality modification, kink-adjacent BDSM-type scenarios, abusers harboring other abusers, ableist characters, misogyny, girlhate, and oblivious classism from the book.)
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Thursday Aug 08, 2019
Episode 4 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: All Just Glass
Thursday Aug 08, 2019
Thursday Aug 08, 2019
Welcome back, listeners! In the fourth episode of Season 2, B+C is bringing you ALL JUST GLASS. Published in January 2011, this one is out of order from the last ones because it is a direct sequel to SHATTERED MIRROR, #7 in the Den of Shadows but the thirteenth book by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes. We return to the world of Sarah Vida, but now with her sister and cousin also taking center stage.
Despite our pure salt last time, we're really excited to talk about this one!
Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Shattered Dreams" (blackberry schnapps, grenadine, Sprite, and grape juice) and Ollie continuing their variation on the "Broken Mirror" here called "Shattered Mirror" (1 part each Absente absinthe, lime juice, and simple syrup, and a sprig of mint). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.
Next time: MIDNIGHT PREDATOR, the fourth original Den of Shadows novel!
(1h 37m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, timeline obsessing, and overly dramatic drunk readingsfrom hosts; discussions of violence, present but not intentional sexual assault metaphors from feeding on people, addiction metaphors that get preachy, moral grays, kidnapping, bad coping skills, magical compulsion and removal of agency, personality modification, narcissistic authority figures, blood and lineage being obsessively important, slut-shaming, misogynist vampires, non-consensual feeding on blood, and subtly terrible power dynamics from the book.)
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Tuesday Jul 02, 2019
Episode 3 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: Shattered Mirror
Tuesday Jul 02, 2019
Tuesday Jul 02, 2019
Welcome back, listeners! In the third episode of Season 2, B+C is bringing you SHATTERED MIRROR. This is the third novel by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, published in fall 2001. Like the second book, this one is about vampires and witches, but with witches taking center stage!
Despite a lot of interesting meta...we're real salty about this one. PLEASE READ THE CONTENT WARNINGS. This one is rough and we get EXTRA vulgar about it.
Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Black & White" and Ollie with a variation on the "Broken Mirror" here called "Shattered Mirror" (1 part each Absente absinthe, lime juice, and simple syrup, and then a sprig of mint). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.
Next time: ALL JUST GLASS, the much better sequel to Shattered Mirror! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!
(1h 47m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, talk around lived experiences during 9/11, timeline obsessing, and overly dramatic drunk readings from hosts; discussions of violence, murder, mental and physical torture, non-consensual scarification, bad mother-daughter relationships, family conditioning, aggressive stalking, dude apologists, relationship zoning, girls being punished because men’s feelings got hurt, men making decisions for teenage girls, Nice Guy bullshit, internalized misogyny, manpain, entitled fragile toxic masculinity, "oppressed" apex predators, shaming of women, unintentional but very present sex and sexual assault metaphors, one twin being creepily twincesty, mentions of suicidal humans, magical compulsion and removal of agency, personality modification, gaslighting, grooming, lovebombing, and subtly terrible power dynamics from the book.)
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Thursday May 30, 2019
Episode 2 - Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: Demon in My View
Thursday May 30, 2019
Thursday May 30, 2019
Welcome back, listeners! In this second episode of Season 2, B+C is talking DEMON IN MY VIEW. This is the second novel by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, published in spring 2000. Like the first book, this one is about vampires but now with added witches!
Have a listen, as we continue to explore our shared history and friendship via the books that brought us together. What aged well? What needed some help? And do we recommend you read this too? Find out!
Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Green Demon" and Ollie with "Dirty Little Freak" by Duclaw Brewing. Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna and Ollie's drank set ups via our Twitter thread.
Next time: SHATTERED MIRROR! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!
(1h 50m. Content Warning: Vulgar language, drinking alcohol, and timeline obsessing from hosts; discussions of bad mother-daughter relationships with an adopted child, shallow bad attitude protagonists, bullying, punching down on the queer woman of color antagonist, violence, murder, torture, coerced consent, and shirtless vampires from the book.)
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