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Friends Ollie and Cyna review nostalgic YA authors’ entire backlist one book at a time. With booze.

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Continuing Season 3 of B&C with THE VAMPIRE DIARIES: THE STRUGGLE. This is LJ Smith's second novel, published October 1991. A trilogy in four parts!

What's aged well, what's going in the trash, and can we possibly recommend this?

Featuring Cyna drinking an alcoholic shake, "Vampire Cocktail" (vanilla ice cream, Triple Sec,  white creme de cacao, and strawberry drizzle) and Ollie with some cousin-of-babywine (Wild Vines blackberry merlot). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.

Bonus content! Peep Cyna's drank set up via our Twitter sharing. (Ollie opted not to take a pic because they were drinking the same thing as book 1, in a MLP:FiM Twilight Sparkle mug.)

Next time: TVD: THE FURY! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few days before it goes public!

(1h 38m. Content Warning: Vulgar language, drinking alcohol, shipping boys together, dramatic readings, and whining that Katherine deserves better from the hosts; compulsive heteronormativity, thinly veiled metaphors for sex/sexual assault, manipulation, gaslighting, abusive friendships, violence, manpain, girlhate, sexualizing teenagers, victim shaming and blaming, stalking, inappropriate teacher-student dynamics, blood, bullying, main character death, atmospheric spookiness, and Gothic horror from the novel. )

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Time to kick off Season 3 of B&C with THE VAMPIRE DIARIES: THE AWAKENING. This is LJ Smith's first novel, published September 1991. And no one could guess that we're talking about... vampires! Again! (We're very on-brand.)

What's aged well, what's going in the trash, and can we possibly recommend this?

Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "The Vampire Diaries" (strawberry syrup, pepper vodka--oh wait, no, that was awful; rum & coke it is!) and Ollie with some basic-ass wine in honor of Elena being That Girl (Barefoot pink moscato, and Wild Vines blackberry merlot). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna and Ollie's drank set ups via our Twitter sharing.

Next time: TVD: THE STRUGGLE! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few days before it goes public!

(1h 26m. Content Warning: Vulgar language, drinking alcohol, shipping boys together, and whining that Katherine deserves better from the hosts; compulsive heteronormativity, thinly veiled metaphors for sex/sexual assault, manipulation, gaslighting, abusive friendships, assault, white knighting, violence, manpain, girlhate, underage drinking, entitlement, stalking, off-screen suicide, murder, blood, animal death, atmospheric spookiness, and Gothic horror from the novel.)

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October 21, 2019

Intro Episode: LJ Smith

We're prepping for our next boo~klist, and right in time for the spooky Halloween season! In this Intro Episode, Cyna and Ollie explore the history of our third Backlist & Chill author, LJ Smith!

Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.  No booze was consumed in the making of this episode. Regularly scheduled alcohol to resume in Episode 1: The Vampire Diaries: The Awakening!

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Welcome back, listeners! In the fifth episode of Season 2, B+C is chatting at you about MIDNIGHT PREDATOR. Published in January 2002, the fourth Den of Shadows by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes. This story includes vampires, hunters, and shapeshifters, set in a human trafficking plot-line of sorts.

Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Turquoise Daiquiri" (rum, Triple Sec, Blue Curacao, lime juice, pineapple juice) and Ollie with whatever random nips they found at their place and their brother's (Smirnoff Fluffed Marshmallow vodka with sprite; Bacardi Gold; Disaronno). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.

Next time: We announce our author for SEASON THREE, and give our Intro Episode! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!

(1h 31m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, book sniffing, timeline obsessing, and dramatic readings from the hosts; discussions of human and supernatural trafficking and slavery, terrible white dude advice from authority figures, victim shamey language, abusive relationships, physical abuse, neglect, mental abuse, manipulation, brain-washing, personality modification, kink-adjacent BDSM-type scenarios, abusers harboring other abusers, ableist characters, misogyny, girlhate, and oblivious classism from the book.)

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Welcome back, listeners! In the fourth episode of Season 2, B+C is bringing you ALL JUST GLASS. Published in January 2011, this one is out of order from the last ones because it is a direct sequel to SHATTERED MIRROR, #7 in the Den of Shadows but the thirteenth book by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes. We return to the world of Sarah Vida, but now with her sister and cousin also taking center stage.

Despite our pure salt last time, we're really excited to talk about this one! 

Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Shattered Dreams" (blackberry schnapps, grenadine, Sprite, and grape juice) and Ollie continuing their variation on the "Broken Mirror" here called "Shattered Mirror" (1 part each Absente absinthe, lime juice, and simple syrup, and a sprig of mint). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.

Next time: MIDNIGHT PREDATOR, the fourth original Den of Shadows novel!

(1h 37m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, timeline obsessing, and overly dramatic drunk readingsfrom hosts; discussions of violence, present but not intentional sexual assault metaphors from feeding on people, addiction metaphors that get preachy, moral grays, kidnapping, bad coping skills, magical compulsion and removal of agency, personality modification, narcissistic authority figures, blood and lineage being obsessively important, slut-shaming, misogynist vampires, non-consensual feeding on blood, and subtly terrible power dynamics from the book.)

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Welcome back, listeners! In the third episode of Season 2, B+C is bringing you SHATTERED MIRROR. This is the third novel by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, published in fall 2001. Like the second book, this one is about vampires and witches, but with witches taking center stage!

Despite a lot of interesting meta...we're real salty about this one. PLEASE READ THE CONTENT WARNINGS. This one is rough and we get EXTRA vulgar about it.

Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Black & White" and Ollie with a variation on the "Broken Mirror" here called "Shattered Mirror" (1 part each Absente absinthe, lime juice, and simple syrup, and then a sprig of mint). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna's and Ollie's drink set ups over on Twitter.

Next time: ALL JUST GLASS, the much better sequel to Shattered Mirror! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!

(1h 47m. Content Warning: Vulgar and lewd language, drinking alcohol, talk around lived experiences during 9/11, timeline obsessing, and overly dramatic drunk readings from hosts; discussions of violence, murder, mental and physical torture, non-consensual scarification, bad mother-daughter relationships, family conditioning, aggressive stalking, dude apologists, relationship zoning, girls being punished because men’s feelings got hurt, men making decisions for teenage girls, Nice Guy bullshit, internalized misogyny, manpain, entitled fragile toxic masculinity, "oppressed" apex predators, shaming of women, unintentional but very present sex and sexual assault metaphors, one twin being creepily twincesty, mentions of suicidal humans, magical compulsion and removal of agency, personality modification, gaslighting, grooming, lovebombing, and subtly terrible power dynamics from the book.)

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Welcome back, listeners! In this second episode of Season 2, B+C is talking DEMON IN MY VIEW. This is the second novel by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, published in spring 2000. Like the first book, this one is about vampires but now with added witches!

Have a listen, as we continue to explore our shared history and friendship via the books that brought us together. What aged well? What needed some help? And do we recommend you read this too? Find out!

Featuring Cyna drinking the mixed drink "Green Demon" and Ollie with "Dirty Little Freak" by Duclaw Brewing. Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna and Ollie's drank set ups via our Twitter thread.

Next time: SHATTERED MIRROR! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few WEEKS before it goes public!

(1h 50m. Content Warning: Vulgar language, drinking alcohol, and timeline obsessing from hosts; discussions of bad mother-daughter relationships with an adopted child, shallow bad attitude protagonists, bullying, punching down on the queer woman of color antagonist, violence, murder, torture, coerced consent, and shirtless vampires from the book.)

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Kicking off Season 2, B&C brings you IN THE FOREST OF THE NIGHT. This is the first novel by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes published way back in 1999. And just like Season 1, yes, we're talking about vampires!

Come learn what aged well, what is a total trash fire, and if we'd recommend it after all this time!

Featuring Cyna drinking "Tiger's Blood" and Ollie with an original cocktail: "Undeath in the Afternoon" (1 part Absente absinthe, 2 parts Canada Dry's ginger ale with lemonade). Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.

Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna and Ollie's drank set ups via our Twitter thread.

Next time: DEMON IN MY VIEW! Chiller and Chillest tier patrons will receive this episode a few days before it goes public!

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • Tora APPARENTLY also means Tiger. 
  • We're wrong about the Cochin. That's been around for-ev-er. It's the title font that was developed first for these books. LOL on us.

(1h 39m. Content Warning: Vulgar language, drinking alcohol, and overly dramatic readings from hosts; discussions of toxic masculinity, murder, blood, cruelty to animals, animal murder, gaslighting, and unreliably narrator from the book.)

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Can you believe it? We're already onto our next backlist! In this Intro Episode, Cyna and Ollie talk about the upcoming second season of Backlist & Chill, featuring books by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes!

Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.  No booze was consumed in the making of this episode. Regularly scheduled alcohol to resume in Episode 1: In The Forests of the Night!

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Friends, it is with great sadness we inform you that Season 1, Episode 3: Blood & Chocolate is currently delayed by intense technical difficulties.
 
An explanation:
 
Ollie's recording was set to use THE GOOD MIC while chatting with Cyna but alas! The recording in Audacity used the built-in laptop mic. While that mic isn't a huge problem for most things, it wasn't what Ollie was aiming for when talking. So a lot of their voice got chopped up. It's awful.
 
So! Ollie loves you apparently? And is transcribing the entire episode—decoding their missing words like a gawd damn detective—and will then RE-record their half. This is going to take a long fucking time. And we don't want to delay putting out more episodes. Thus, we're moving on to Episode 4, the final part of Season 1.
 
S'all right? S'all right.
 
Behold! Backlist & Chill: Episode 3—wherein we rip a new asshole to FREAKS: ALIVE, ON THE INSIDE!
 
The fourth and currently final novel by Annette Curtis Klause, ALIVE ON THE INSIDE was published on January 31, 2006 by Margaret K. McElderry Books (paperback release in 2007 with Simon Pulse).
 
This is the second ACK novel that was unfamiliar for Cyna and Ollie. And... with good reason, it turns out! This episode is DOUBLE SIZED compared to our last episode.
 
Friends. This one is a mess of content warnings. Be sure to read those at the bottom of this post before giving a listen. Be safe!
 
Featuring Cyna with a drink called "Circus Freak" and Ollie with a good strong glass of time-period appropriate Absente absinthe. Intro theme - "Let It In" by Josh Woodward.
 
Bonus content! Have a gander at Cyna and Ollie's drank set ups via our Twitter thread.
 
Next time: Announcing our Season 2 author backlist! CHILLEST TIER only will have access to this episode 1 week earlier than everyone else!
 
IMPORTANT NOTES:
  • We frankly discuss this book's child molestation sub-subplots from: 1:21:41 - 1:27:16
  • Equally, frank discussion of transphobia and TERF concepts sprinkled throughout—anything that CAN be transphobic IS IN THIS BOOK: 1:25:21 - 1:45:39
(2h 4m. Content Warning: Vulgar language and drinking alcohol from hosts; discussions of privileged entitled mediocre white boy, constant sexual thoughts of a teenage boy from the adult writer's perspective, ableism, beauty essentialism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism and misogyny, racism, "exoticizing" of people of color, male gaze sexualizing and objectifying women and potentially non-cis people, manipulative women stereotypes, girlhate, manpain, sex worker shaming, arranged marriages, fat-phobia and fat-shaming, complicity in terrible shit, appropriation of others' marginalized identities, physical and emotional abuse of children, neglect and food insecurity, kidnapping, trafficking and exploitation of children, child and adult slavery, child molestation/rape and pedophilia, children kept in filth and squalor, threats of sending a child to an asylum because of his different looks, and murder in the book.)
 
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